Like Bogdan said, more appropriate in the arrangers forum, but: yesI'm 55 but feel like I'm 77 most days. I'm in the land in between old farts and new ones I guess.
So I'm confused about the registrations or as mentioned above 4 variations. I don't have a Genos here to test.
IF I can establish say 8 or 16 or 32 styles in my custom area performance either similar or different as they might be and I can seamlessly crossfade between any of them in real time how is that different from registrations or variations?
Doesn't changing from style to style save everything (when I created all of them) and transition everything on the keyboard same as a registration? How is it different?
I can even change any instrument or drum kit while playing so does it have a limitation?
For example lets say I setup 1 thru 20 styles for my next performance in order I what to fade into them. Each have all their own parameters such fills, modes or variation, endings, instruments, kits, accompaniments etc. Lets say I want 8 variations and not only 4 on buttons 1 thru 4. I would copy style 1 into style 2 and change it to have 4 other variations in style 2 so now I simply cross-fade in order to grab 4 additional variations or 12 or 16 etc. Isn't it "endless" how many variations I can have since I can crossfade without interruption?
So the next question is can I create my own custom variations and keep adding them into a similar style and I can jump between any similar style 1 to 2, or 2 to 3 or 3 back to 1 or 1 to 4 etc. Same thing with the instruments all of them can have different instruments ready to access and if you're playing a guitar and you switch between 2 or 3 similar styles you retain that guitar until you decide to swap it out manually.
I guess I need to relocate this comment to the arranger section.
Let's say I have a song "Be Mine". I can copy that style 8 times (into my user location) and change each of them into a "style variation 1 thru 8" but they are all still the same song. Say I begin playing "Be Mine" variation style 1 in "player 1" and variation 2 in "player 2". With that I have double the options at my finger tips on a capacitive touch control screen. Say I'm now in "player 2" and I want to move to "player 3", I simply tap "player 1" and change it to variation 3 and crossfade into 3 and then call up variation 4 on "player 2" and so on. It's so fast it's instantaneous.
Because of the 2 player architecture I always have a free slot ready to load anything I want without interruption even on the same song as many variations as I want.
I was thinking Yamaha has to have "Registrations" because they don't have SSS thus they had no other way to change without interruption. It's a hack? Does the Genos stop playing when switching a registration? Isn't "registration" just another word for program recall along a series of buttons?
You can have infinite versions of styles (which do seamlessly load, *unless* you have conflicting sysex and it tries to load 1 reverb then another instantly, which can cause issues (easily fixed by simply saving a copy of the style with the target reverb and dsps)./
I can go from 1 to 2 to 3 back to 1 ... but it's not 1 to 10. It's literally as many as you need; most of my youtube performances use between 32 and 50 registration sets, and you can change voices, style voices, keys, tempo, split point, fingering, even transpose & scale tune from 1 to the next if you need 1/4 tones for a solo, for example. You can have as many versions of a style as you like (200 if you like) and you can call them back and forth or sequentially, whatever you like. Have you not seen one yet?
Here's my take on the Raiders Theme; I keep flicking back and forth between the big orchestral sounds and the high flutes for glissandos right at the 1:05 mark, for example
But also I change the style multiple times, including an almost silent one for that 'bridge' in the middle (just the occasional tambourine jingle). I also switch to ensemble mode at 2:05 (yes, Roland Jupiter 80 did ensemble mode better

Note on this Genos 1 version, I learned to play in all the different keys. When I first did this demo on T4, I hadn't practiced enough for the C to Db key change right before the quiet bridge, so on T4 I programmed in transpose so that I could just keep playing in C. And it's not 8 or 10 registration changes, it is essentially infinite; I once did a TV&Movie soundtrack medley that went through over 70 registration changes. My Top Gun Maverick theme demo I'm working on currently has 4 completely different styles in it; I'm still programming them, there will likely be more.
Bottom line, if you've never tried that feature, you don't know if you need it or not.
I'm slightly younger than you, and Bogdan is slightly younger than me, but we're all in the same ballpark. Yes, I've recommended PA5x specifically for people who want to play dance/hip hop, more 'modern' beats.
As for your last questions about program recall, yes it's basically that, but instantaneous: if you pay attention to the 4 voices on the screen, in the span of 10 seconds, you can see that I change the registration 10 times (at the 0:36 mark). I wish we'd shot it more clearly, but that's why my first video (done by a professional news director.. he was an A/V student at the time) for Danny Elfman's Batman on CVP409, he did a separate recordig take of just the screen so that you could see how quickly and when I was changing the voices.
Mark
Statistics: Posted by amwilburn — Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:12 pm